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BARNEY O'CONNELL AND SNAP

This is one of Mary Raftery's main "witnesses" Bernard (Barney) O'Connell taking part in a discussion on the American website of SNAP (Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests) in 2002/03.

 

  

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Susan
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(11/3/02 6:58 pm)
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Christian Brothers-Ireland




Does anyone have contact information for SOCA (Irish Survivors of Child Abuse) or The Joseph Pike group a/o Christina Holt? I would like to get in touch with them.
Thanks,
Linda
www.unison.ie/irish_indep...ue_id=8293
Letterfrack: unmarked grave of boy, 4, discovered

Sunday November 3rd 2002

SURVIVORS of the Letterfrack Industrial School in Connemara yesterday uncovered the unmarked grave of a four-year-old boy who died while in the custody of the Christian Brothers and was buried in woods near the school.

The discovery came about when a 74-year-old man turned up for a ceremony to mark the graves of the estimated 99 boys who died at the school between the 1870s until it closed in the Seventies.

The man brought organisers to a site in the woods near the school where they found the grave of Bernard Kerrigan, who died in 1935. The elderly man, who wishes to remain anonymous, told the organisers of the event he had played with the boy in the schoolyard and wanted to visit his grave before he died.

The organisers of the event yesterday placed 77 marble hearts in the graveyard beside the school.

While organising the event, the group known as the Joseph Pike Research Group, discovered from Christian Brothers' records that at least 99 boys died in Letterfrack.

The Christian Brothers said on Friday that incomplete records had been kept at Letterfrack and that they had kept full records in their Dublin Provincialate. They wished that all records about deaths at the school be made available to families and ex-inmates.

Christina Holt of the Joseph Pike group named after a boy who died in the Tralee Industrial School yesterday called for a public inquiry into Letterfrack and the other industrial schools. The Research Group has sent a letter to Bertie Ahern asking for an inquiry into deaths in 74 industrial schools.

"The Christian Brothers gave us 97 names but we have a further two names. What we are finding is horrific. In some cases we have found that there were no death certificates. They are not registered in the Register of Deaths in Galway.

"That is why we are calling for a public inquiry. On death certificates we have seen the boys have also been robbed of their parentage. They are down as 'son of a tinker', 'son of a labourer', 'son of a butcher'. This morning we found Bernard Kerrigan's grave. This man who played with him in the schoolyard confirmed that he died and we found his grave."

The grave is less than 10 yards from the school building. John Prior said they had heard that a boy had been buried in the woods beside the school but had no idea where it was. It was totally unmarked.

"This man came here this morning and brought us to the grave. He said he had been playing with Bernard Kerrigan the day before and the next day was at his burial."

The Letterfrack survivors attended a Mass yesterday prior to the placing of the marble hearts in the graveyard.

Meanwhile, members of the Survivors of Child Abuse (SOCA) the group have said they will boycott another ceremony planned for the Letterfrack Industrial School next Saturday.

Patrick Walsh of SOCA said the event planned for next Saturday was offensive to Letterfrack victims as it involved the local community. He said boys remember trying to escape from the school and being brought back by local people and gardai.

He said the event, organized by the local community group, Connemara West, is "viewed with great suspicion by the survivors of Frack because of all the official and religious involvement, not to mention the spectre of having to rub shoulders with members of the 'local community'."

SOCA's members are currently pursuing the Catholic Church for compensation for victims in lawsuits that could lead to over €100 million in payments and legal costs.

The cases are expected to take years to hear and may involve a prolonged legal battle against the charitable trusts under which church property is held.

JIM CUSACK

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peanutty7
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(11/26/02 11:55 pm)
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Re: Christian Brothers-Ireland


Hello susan,
I read your post & was wondering if you found this info, if you did could you share it with me?
Please respond to my email or post.
Thanks,
Peanut :)

rhiannon
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(11/27/02 10:01 am)
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Re: Christian Brothers-Ireland


www.abneys.co.uk/IrishSur...shhome.htm

that is what I found and hope it is what you are seeking - - -
www.irishcentre.org/
www.missingpersons-irelan...reland.htm

www.missingpersons-irelan...dabuse.htm

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...450088.stm

www.oneinfour.org/


there are some links I think the first is the one you are seeking - - - anyway -- -looks like I better switch brands of brandy lol ---

have a happy thanksgiving Darlene
Edited by: rhiannon at: 11/27/02 10:16:16 am

Kimo
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(2/6/03 1:28 pm)
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Other Topics on the Christian Brothers of Ireland


For anyone else seeking information on this board on the Christian Brothers of Ireland, here are more topics you can find on this board:

Forum: cardinal law and the boston archdiocese
Topic: catholic memorial high school and christian brothers

Forum: all other dioceases
Topic: briscoe school for boys, kent, wa
Topic: another briscoe school victim
Topic: abuse at briscoe and o'dea

Forum: seeking information about specific clergyman
Topic: brother robert noel brouillette, irish christian brother
Topic: br quinn at all hallows in the bronx

Forum: cardinal george and archdiocese of chicago
Topic: he's in st. louis...in "st louis today"

A message to anyone reading this: I am a victim of the christian brothers of ireland. I was sexually abused by a christian brother of ireland. I am on the road to recovery and want to extend a helping hand to anyone who needs it. I welcome any and all email correspondance with anyone else who was sexually abused by a member of this order. Not the de la salle christian brothers. You can find my email address on my profile.

BARNEY O CONNELL
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(3/12/03 2:55 am)
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irish christian brothers


the article about the suspicious child deaths in
letterfrack industrial school,owned and operated by the Irish Christian brothers. shows how very many young Irish children placed into their - the BROTHERS-custody were severely beaten, humiliated and starved into submission and into sexual slavery and child slave labour gulag conditions, many children died in there. and many other children's deaths were suicides, they just could not take the sexual degradation and severe floggings and terrible kickings and physical attacks on their young bodies in these "Irish CHRISTIAN Brothers, slave camps """INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS"",
for 10 ten years, I -personally- was in "Artane industrial SCHOOL -a slave forced work camp.owned and operated by the Irish Christian brothers -- A GREEDY for profit and for money- BUSINESS,disguised as a religious and charitable institution. we children done all the labour,sweat, work and the industry in there,and we were beaten with hurley sticks and other leather straps to work us even harder.we were forced to work hard and menial labour many hours every day,and most of the products we produced were either eaten or sold by the Irish Christian brothers.for their profits and for money. example ==there was a dairy herd numbering about 80 eighty Friesian and jersey cows artane industrial school and we children used to feed and milk and clean these cows. and yet in spite of this huge volume of milk produced by us the children-- I never once -not once did I ever get a glass of milk in ARTANE INDUSTRIAL ""SCHOOL"" ,I also speak for the other 1000 one thousand other children in artane,. no the evil and greedy Irish Christian b=brothers used to sell all the milk for profit .also we had about 1200 chickens on the poultry farm in Artane.EVEN THOugh WE CHILDREN FED, CLEANED, AND catered to these chickens I -never once -got a piece of chicken meat in artane,in deed we the children only got 2 two chicken eggs in every year . yes people we children only got one hard boiled chicken-egg on Sunday Easter morning . and the 2nd second chicken egg on Easter Monday morning -this was -to celebrate Irelands independence ???.from England . it certainly was not independence from fear, hunger, cold, and want. hunger.- and sexual slavery.in 10 years in artane under the CARE???OF IRISH CHRISTIAN BROTHERS I and all the other 1000.---one thousand other children in there never once got a pair of gloves nor a hat nor an over coat to keep us warm.indeed we children -I - personally never once got or received a tooth-brush nor a roll or a piece of toilet paper for lavatory use.I never even got sugar for our tea,this tea was served in an iron metal pewter kind of mug and never once did we even get hot cereal like porridge or oatmeal to eat for breakfast-remember OLIVER TWIST??? ??nor did we get cold cereal either.
now U can see why so many children died in artane ??

AND IT ALWAYS SEEMED LIKE IT. THE HORRORS WOULD NEVER END-NOBODY EVER CAME TO RESCUE US CHILDREN, FROM OUR HOLOCAUST, IN IRELAND.for evil ness and SEXUAL PERVERSIONS ,AND MORAL DEGENERATES THE IRISH CHRISTIAN BROTHERS IN ARTANE,IN 1940-1950/S MAKE THE NAZI S/S AND THE GESTAPO CRIMES LOOK LIKE MILD AND EVEN AMATEURISH IN COMPARISION TO THE BROTHERS . BROTHER JOSEPH HAD HIS VERY OWN TORTURE CHAMBER FOR INSTANCE. YES ITS TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD JESUS ABOVE.HE USED TO CHOKE NA CHILDREN THAT HE HAD BEATEN HALF TO DEATH.ALSO HE HAD A LIKE A CHESTOF DRAWERS THAAT HE HAD CUT OUTS IN THE 2ND AND 3RD DRAWERS,IN TO WICH HE USED TO FORCE THE CHILD/S HEAD AND AS HE HELD THE DRAWER SHUT WITH HIS KNEE--HE WOULD BEAT THE CHILD NOW NAKED -WITH HIS RUBBER OR LEATHER STRAP. HE USED TO GET HIMSELF WORKED UP INTO A TEMPER AND BE SHOUTING IN TONGUES AND ALL FOAMING AT THE MOUTHLIKE A PERSON WITH TOO MUCH TOOTHPASTE I HIS MOUTH.THEN HE WOULD TAKE THE CHILD OOUT OF THE DRAWER STODK LLIKE DEVISE AND HOLD THE CHILD AGAINST THE WALL UP HIGH AND BE CHOKNG THE CHILD WITH HIS HAND AOUND THE CHILD NECK AND BANGING THE CHILDS HEAD AGAINST THE CANCRETE BLOCK WALL. BORTHER JOSEPH WOULD BE HAVING A SEXUAL ORGASASM AND SCREAMING IN TONGUES AND SINGING IN A FORIEGN LANGUAGE -MAYBE IT WAS GAELIG LANGUAGE. I FEEL HE BROTHER JOSEPH MUST HAVE GONE TOO FAAR ON MANY OCCASIONS --AND CHOKED THE CHILD TO DEATH.???YES I FIRMLY BELIEVE HE MUST HAAAVE CHOKED SOME OF HIS VICTIMS TO DEATH IN HIS SEXUAL PERVERSIONS.IRISH CHRISTIAN BROTHER JOSEPH O CONNOR IS IN MY PERSONAL OPINION-,KOWLEDGE ,THE DEVIL SATAN HERE ON EARTH .

I know there are many dead -murdered Irish child in the mass common grave in the same ARTANE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL.IN DUBLIN CITY IRELAND.pleasse urge the Irish people to demand that we open up this huge mass grave with many hundred of Irish poorest children this tomb of horror.I am barns ey O Connell I am a witness to 2 two child murders in artane industrial school in the 1950/S . the Christian brothers are guilty of infanticide and mass murder .and hey are getting away --LITERALLY WITH MURDER -DOZENS AND DOZENS OF IRISH CHILDREN BURIED AND HIDDEN -IN DUBLIN CITY IN PLAIN SIGHT .we must show Ireland the truth -ugly as it will prove to be proven. only this way can we prevent these huge number of crimes from happening again. Ireland children deserve better.and this truth shall set them and us the SURVIVORS FREE. I am Barney O Connell. exer from artane. murder camp owned and operated by the Irish Christian brothers. ii Dublin city Ireland.exhume the children's bodies from their mass grave pit. do it now. and the truth will set us free .

BARNEY O CONNELL
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(3/13/03 6:25 am)
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soca and other suport groups


susan please do email me and i can help you get in touch with irish soca and british - irish born soca mmbers living there also.SOCA = Survivors OF CHILD ABUSE.
one site is spike9w@yahoo.com.ok ? i am also a member of irish soca.
president is john kelly.living in dublin city,
MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS BOCON85@AOL,COM.

Liam McEvoy
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(5/8/03 6:50 pm)
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Re: Christian Brothers-Ireland


Hello Susan:

Did you ever find an address for SOCA Ireland - I spent an unforgetable three years in Ireland's Artane Industrial School (see my letter under Artane) and would like to make contact with SOCA Ireland.

Liam
lmcevoy@counsellingassociates.com

dekarnys
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(8/4/03 6:55 am)
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murders at Artane


If anyone has any firm info of murders at Artane, Ill put their stories on m,y site, The Missing Persons Issue Ireland
several sites - cairhavn.topcities.com
PS. Think hard on this!
I have researched and with several informants within religious cults in Ireland who have TOTAL knowledge on child abuse, the extent and the reasons and the DRIVING FORCE behind these crimes, they tell me the reason is because the abusers are involved in devil worship!

I know the abused children who are now adults have been traumatised by the abuse and WHY it happened - please consider seriously this explanation!

Remember, the abusers by and large are and were persons who had a degree of intelligence and were educated.

Child abuse has no corelation with homosexuality!

IF anyone wants their stories told, mail me at jacque@iol.ie or above dekarnys@yahoo.co.uk